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LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR OF HAWAII
LAURA H. THIELEN
CHAIRPERSON
BOARD OF LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMISSION ON WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT

KEN C. KAWAHARA
DEPUTY DIRECTOR - WATER

AQUATIC RESOURCES
BOATING AND OCEAN RECREATION
BUREAU OF CONVEYANCES
COMMISSION ON WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT
CONSERVATION AND COASTAL LANDS
CONSERVATION AND RESOURCES ENFORCEMENT
ENGINEERING
FORESTRY AND WILDLIFE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION
KAHOOLAWE ISLAND RESERVE COMMISSION
LAND
STATE PARKS

STATE OF HAWAII
DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES
STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DIVISION
601 KAMOKILA BOULEVARD, ROOM 555
KAPOLEI, HAWAII 96707





AGENDA



HAWAII HISTORIC PLACES REVIEW BOARD MEETING

DATE: November
3,
2007
TIME: 9:00
a.m.

PLACE:
The Department of Land & Natural Resources


Kalanimoku Building, Board Room 132


1151 Punchbowl Street, Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

I.
MEETING CALL TO ORDER

II.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JUNE 30, 2007

III.
REVIEW AND DETERMINATION ON ACCEPTABILITY FOR THE STATE REGISTER

1. Lilijestrand House
TMK: (1) 2-5-011:008

2. Kin and Lau Shee Lum Residence
TMK: (1) 3-2-051: 025

3. Louis & Marjorie Stephens Residence
TMK: (1) 2-2-045: 040

4. James and Asta Hughes Residence
TMK: (1) 2-9-016: 026

5. The Coral House

TMK: (1) 4-9-008:005

VI. ADJOURNMENT

Persons interested in testifying at the Public Hearing, please notify the Hawaii Historic
Places Review Board by November 2, 2007.


If you require special needs (i.e. large print or taped materials, Sign Language interpreter,
etc.) please call the State Historic Preservation Division by October 29, 2007. Phone:
692-8015.


MINUTES
HAWAII HISTORIC PLACES REVIEW BOARD


DATE:
SATURDAY, June 25, 2005
TIME:
12:30 P.M.
PLACE:
HAWAII HISTORIC PLACES REVIEW BOARD MEETING
DEPARTMENT OF LAND & NATURAL RESOURCE
1151 PUNCHBOWL STREET, ROOM 132
HONOLULU, HAWAII 96813


ATTENDANCE:

Review Board:
Dr. Kiyoshi Ikeda
Benjamin
Torigoe
Peter
Mills
Michiko
Kodama-Nishimoto
Naomi Losch
Victoria Kneubuhl
Dawn Duensing

Absent: Joyce
Chinen
Laurie
Lucking
Virginia
Murison

Staff Present:
Jocelyn Nazareno, Review Board Secretary

Susan Tasaki, Architect

Thomas Lim, Architecture Branch Chief

Guest in Attendance:
Julie Carlson
Jodi
Virata
Robert
Rau

Sui and Tom Manon
Tommy
Chin




I.
CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order at 12:45 p.m. by Dr. Kiyoshi Ikeda -
Chairperson.

II.
SITE REVIEW

1. Thrum House
See nomination form for descriptive information.

Thomas Lim presented slides

Ben Torigoe moved to place the Thrum House on the Hawaii Register and to
recommend nomination to the National Register. (Naomi Losch)

Ben Torigoe went over Virginia Murisons written comments she submitted. As
far as this application is concern, I would like these set of plans become part of
the application. They would definitely take care of my concerns listed below.

1. Site plan need to show the size of lot.
2. Need both plans to show the original footprint clearly identifying the later
alterations.
3. Description is confusing between the original front and the new front of
this house.
4. Not clear whether the front changed in the 40s or 70s.
5. Have concerns about the new front additions.

Ben Torigoe I agree with all of Virginia Murisons comments, however the
application needs some clarification on some statements in the application. This
needs to be worked out with the owners and State Historic Preservation staff.
Also plan needs to be included with the application. Then application will be
acceptable.

Dr. Ikeda There is a question on the boundary of the nomination. There is a
second structure on the property which is not included with the original boundary
of the house.

Ben Torigoe Would like to have the second structure be changed from non-
contributing to contributing on the nomination with the concurrence of the
property owner. In the historicity of the site the second structure was used as a
Zen center for 40 years. This is the reason why you have a bow tree in the back
yard and this second structure links to that. Even though this structure doesnt
meet the 50 years, it does have enough time to show that it is a good example of
local Hawaiian architecture concerning that type of local use. I would suggest
that board include this as a contributing structure.



Dawn Duensing Disagrees with adding the second structure to the nomination
form as a contributing structure. The grammatical errors need to be corrected
and in general the nomination needs to be reworked and made fundamental
clear.

Thomas Lim Staff will work with the owners to make corrections on the
nominations.

Michiko Kodama-Nishimoto I agree with Ben. I would like to see the second
structure on your property included in the nomination because its been there for forty years and it is significant because the owners used it as a Zen center. This
is my only recommendation. Otherwise I have no reservations about placing the
home on the Register. It is a good example of property that has changed hands
in a way that reflect the changes of Manoa. Primarily the area was once
occupied by Caucasians, upper class families, and over the years people of
different ethnic groups have moved into the community. And when you look at
the change in ownership over the years it is reflected in the report and this is
worthy of being noted.

Peter Mills We do want to note that the name Thrum has strong ties to Hawaiis
history even though Mr. Thomas Thrum didnt live in this house. Thomas Thrum
was the father of David Thrum who built this house. Thomas Thrum was one of
the famous Hawaiian historians in Hawaii. This connection should some how be
brought out and really paid attention to as far as the name Thrum goes. Thomas
Thrum was a Hawaiian translator, he translated Hawaiian documents, but he was
not Hawaiian.

Peter Mills The nomination needs to be corrected. The house has integrity and
the alterations that were made are in keeping with the historic character of the
house.

Naomi Losch I was very much impressed with the house. This house is a
beautiful. The newer additions that were added to the house blended in with the
character of the house and I was very impress with it. This is the kind of house I
want to go home to.

Naomi Losch asked What makes someone home eligible for registry? And
what are the guidelines that the property owners need to know when restoring a
house or building.

Victoria Kneubuhl I was glad to hear Bens opinion and to clear up these
concerns that Virginia had because in these situation I like to rely on what the
architects think about the structure. I feel very supportive and more confident
about nominating this home. I am really aware of the significance of the College
Hills tract because I work for the Manoa Heritage Center and part of my job is to
document and collect the history of the valley. So whenever there is a home that
was part of the tract that reflects changes from agriculture use of the valley to
residential use of the valley Ill be happy to see it be on the register because
thats one of our most significant historic neighborhoods. Id like to see things
preserved.

Dr. Kiyoshi Ikeda One thing that impressed me is an effort to preserve a façade
at the some time there is an internal transformation to meet family needs. The
history of moving the utilities in the kitchen from California to Hawaii is a very
interesting story itself. Relative to the nomination the balance between keeping
the internal elements to some integrity over maintaining the façade gives
attention. Can we have more discussion on this before we make a decision?
Ben Torigoe - This is one of the few house that has been able to equalize the
balance and attention between them. Some of the others that we had in the past
had tremendous problem. I have no problem with this house.

Dr. Kiyoshi Ikeda calls for the votes

Ben Torigoe On my recommendation, I recommended that the L-shaped
additional structure be included as part of the nomination along with the
corrections to the nominations; including Virginias comments and other boards
members comments. Also to include the map with the nomination. This is where
my nomination stands, if this is what the board is voting on so be it.

Dr. Ikeda So we have two votes.

Thomas Lim Well we