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HEARING BEFORE THE HILLTOWN TOWNSHIP

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

BUCKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA



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RE: Haines & Kibblehouse


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Thursday, August 14, 2003


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Hilltown Township Municipal Building
13 West Creamery Road
Hilltown, PA


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BETTY SNYDER, Chairwoman

KENNETH BENNINGTON

JOHN BENDER


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COUNSEL PRESENT:

FRANCIS X. GRABOWSKI, ESQUIRE
Solicitor for the Township

PAUL OBER, ESQUIRE
Attorney for the Applicant

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HAINES & ASSOCIATES COURT REPORTING (215) 721-2221


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I N D E X


Witness Direct

John Ross 5

Calvin Avans 74

John J. Resetar 104



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E X H I B I T S


APPLICANT'S EXHIBITS

Number Marked

A-21 Map of cross-sections 24

A-22 Map of cross-sections 24

A-23 Map of cross-sections 24

A-24 "Tutorial: Everyday Noise List 68

A-25 "Noise Levels in our Environment" 69

A-26 Metrosonics Noise Monitor information 69

A-27 "Sound Level Monitoring Database" 69


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1 THE CHAIRWOMAN: I'd like to call

2 the hearing to order. Let's start with the pledge to

3 the flag.

4 (Whereupon, all pledged allegiance

5 to the flag.)

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7 THE CHAIRWOMAN: I'd like to thank

8 you all for coming out this evening, and I will turn

9 the meeting over to our moderator, Mr. Grabowski.

10 MR. GRABOWSKI: Thank you, Betty.

11 Good evening, everybody.

12 This is our fifth hearing in the

13 matter of H & K. I think at the last meeting we had

14 finished up with the testimony of Mr. Ross, and I think

15 we pretty well completed all the questions and answers

16 at that point. We adjourned very late that night.

17 Fortunately, the air conditioner isn't set at 52 as it

18 was at the last meeting.

19 A couple of housekeeping rules.

20 There is another meeting taking place here at 7:30.

21 The Park and Recreation Board is going to be meeting at

22 the back conference room. So if anybody is here for

23 that a half hour early, that meeting will be back

24 there.

25 The second thing I want to mention
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1 is that I guess everybody is aware of what is going on

2 in New York and other states surrounding Pennsylvania.

3 We are very fortunate that we don't have a problem here

4 with the electric. This building is on a generator.

5 So if the lights should flicker, a generator will come

6 on. We'll have lights; however, I would think at that

7 point just for the sake of appropriateness we would

8 probably adjourn and let everybody go home. Some of

9 you have children at home or relatives and friends at

10 home who would not have electricity. I think we're

11 going to be okay. Everybody says Pennsylvania is

12 insulated from what's going on; but in case that

13 happens we'll adjourn the meeting and pick up next

14 time, which is next Thursday, August 21st, here at

15 7 o'clock.

16 I understand, if my memory serves

17 me correct, Mr. Ober, we were going to move on to a new

18 witness tonight. Unless anyone has any other

19 housekeeping rules, we'll proceed.

20 MR. OBER: I'd like to begin by

21 apologizing to the board and to members of the audience

22 for my condition at the last hearing. I hope I didn't

23 spread too many germs and make too many of you sick.

24 Unfortunately, somebody had to be here, and I got to be

25 the lucky fellow.
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1 Frank, I have not quite finished

2 with John. We're moving to a new phase of John, but we

3 have not finished with John.

4 So, John, would you like to

5 proceed?

6 MR. GRABOWSKI: Excuse me, one

7 last thing, because I know I'll forget. There was open

8 discussion at the last hearing about the possibility of

9 a tour of the quarry sites, and I think there was going

10 to be some discussion from last time until tonight

11 about a possible date. Has anything been done to that

12 regard that we should announce tonight?

13 MR. KIBBLEHOUSE: We will have

14 that by the end of the meeting tonight.

15 MR. GRABOWSKI: Okay, fine.

16 MR. OBER: For the record, that

17 was Jack Kibblehouse.

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19 JOHN ROSS, having been previously

20 sworn, was examin